Mother's little helper — pot

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Permalink Reply by Mary Ann Lowry on July 6, 2009 at 9:04am

Read the book "Beautiful Boy" by David Sheff. It's a memoir about his journey through his son's meth addiction. He smoked pot while in college. During that time the harsher drugs like crystal meth weren't as prevalent. In the book he justified his son's pot use and even smoked with him on one occasion. However, he now considers marijuana, the gateway drug. I'm not concerned about Moms going that route, but too many kids are introduced to those drugs via peer groups, parties, etc.

If they know that Mom smokes pot, it's certainly easier to justify using the hard stuff. At that age they feel that nothing will happen to them. They are far stronger than the drugs, so no chance would they get addicted.

I teach parenting classes, so parents can learn to parent as a life coach. Every person, who I've taught, remembers the significant behaviors that they observed in their parents. Even if you think your kids won't know, they process this info. I bet you remember some details that your parents wish you didn't.

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Permalink Reply by Andrea Tarrant on July 7, 2009 at 8:25am

I've read a lot of these replies and all have some great points. It is a crutch, it is illegal, it does relax you, everything is fine in moderation, a couple of puffs isn't any different than a glass of wine. I would say from the illegal stand point, so is pirated dvd's...how many of your children have downloaded movies right now in their library? What message are you sending with that? The only reason it has not been legalized yet is because the gov't has not developed a sobriety test similar to the breathalyzer. Do you know who much money has been spent on the war on marijuana in the US? Billions and billions. Not drugs, but specifically marijuana. Does anyone think that money could have been better spent somewhere else? Child trafficking for one? Not trying to get off topic but, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes, you shouldn't judge...to each his own and whatever works for you works. I think topics like these are great to remind us that it's ok to have differing views of opinions.

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Permalink Reply by t lee on July 7, 2009 at 9:44pm

LMAO.

Smoking is in the past for me as well as drinking.

For stress release...SEX is always a great idea.

You get to be closer to your spouse and release alot of tension..

Highly (no pun intended) recommended.
:)

Noelle said:

.. honestly? It's idiotic! Smoking Pot is no better than smoking tobacco..and let me tell you.. cancer SUCKS!!! .. and any self respecting mom should keep that crap away from their kids.

Need to chill? Drink ONE glass of wine... Go for a walk...crank the music and dance around the living room..or heck... buy a vibrator, use it.. and take a little nap.

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Permalink Reply by RONQUAL WILLIAMS on July 7, 2009 at 10:13pm

u dont have to smoke to chill you can have a girls day out to the spa just you no one else and relax our you can curl up with a good book and read your worries away not everyone needs weed to take the edge off you need to find out what works best for you and not what works for others

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Permalink Reply by Dawn on July 8, 2009 at 4:52am

I think I have been at the computer too long? This was enlightening :O

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Permalink Reply by Shawn on July 11, 2009 at 6:37am

Wow, interesting. Pot smoking soccer moms! I am so behind the loop.

I have never smoked pot, nor do I plan to start. But I am not going to judge someone that does. ATLEAST it's not the heroin mom or the crack mom. Or the mom picking up there child from school when they are completely drunk.

Rules for pot smoking moms:

1. Don't do it around MY child.
2. Don't do it around your child. Don't do it around ANY child.
3. Don't do it in the car.
4. Don't let it lead to other drugs.
5. Look for alternative ways to relieve your stress ... because you know this is the main reason they are doing it. try yoga. try pilates. try meditation. find a hobby away from your kids.
6. Make more time for yourself. Your life does not have to revolve around your child's. This would be known as the hovering mother and that is not a health relationship for you or your child.

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Permalink Reply by Kelly Luzod-Jones on July 11, 2009 at 7:26pm

I totally agree...now that I'm a mom I don't want my boys subjected to this crap even if it's not in their sight. The whole idea of parenthood is to be a role model and what kind of message am I sending to my kids let alone myself if I need to chill with alcohol or drugs???
Yes...take up Yoga, hire a babysitter for a few hours (that's the cost of a doobie right there) take a walk, lock the door and have a quickie...or, hell, dust off that vibrator and have a great night!

Noelle said:

.. honestly? It's idiotic! Smoking Pot is no better than smoking tobacco..and let me tell you.. cancer SUCKS!!! .. and any self respecting mom should keep that crap away from their kids.

Need to chill? Drink ONE glass of wine... Go for a walk...crank the music and dance around the living room..or heck... buy a vibrator, use it.. and take a little nap.

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Permalink Reply by Stefanie Mullen on July 13, 2009 at 9:52am

That is the best quote I have ever heard!! I will be using that.

Val said:

Alicia426 said:

As my mom used to say, "Everything is going to be my fault one day anyway, so we are doing things my way whether you like it or not".

My best friends and I pass the Mommy of the year award around as a joke. LOL But our main thing is the kids will go to counseling for something. May as well be something we believe in!

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Permalink Reply by Cindy Callinsky on July 24, 2009 at 10:56pm

I would love to hear from people who suffer from chronic pain or mental disorders such as Panic Attacks or General Anxiety Disorder. Is it better for physicians to prescribe something like Oxycodone, which is probably the most addictive legal drug known to the human race? Maybe some Valium or Xanax? The pharmaceutical companies are making massive amounts of money. My prescription for G.A.D. costs $110.00 a month. My sister spends about 2K a month on prescription medicine. She has had eight back operations and is in constant pain.

I’m not saying that Yoga might not possibly help, exercise and diet too. Until you or someone very close to you has suffered from somthing crippling, or felt like they were going to die from repeated panic attacks, I think it’s hard to really grasp the big picture. No one really knows the total benefits or side effects because no one has ever truly been able to do the research on it because they cannot get approval from the government. From the little research that has been done, it appears that the health benefits outweigh the side effects, especially when you consider the side effects of drugs such as Oxycodone. Not to mention the whole other side of it being a true renewable resource that grows pretty much everywhere and easily. It would be wonderful to save some of the trees, don’t you think?

No, I am not a pothead. I am a single mother that has struggled very hard for the majority of her life. If it was legal, I would absolutely use it in moderation if it were prescribed.

As for it being a gateway drug, I believe alcohol -which is legal- is the first gateway drug. Marijuana may be the next step in that progression, but those that fall into the “gateway” would have more than likely made it there with the use of alcohol alone if marijuana didn’t exist.

As with all drugs, it shouldn’t be prescribed to young people unless they have extenuating circumstances like a terminal illness.

I have seen many adults addicted to all kinds of prescription drugs, and marijuana is just not addictive. If you have Netflix, take some time and watch a couple of good documentaries on the issue.

Oh, yeah. What about all the money it would save the government in the war on drugs? It would almost remove the black market for it? It would make the government massive amounts of money if it were taxed.

If it were legalized, it would have to be used in an appropriate manor as with any other prescription drug. As with any other drug there will be people that do not use it properly, just as with alcohol and prescription drugs.


Val said:

Interesting topic as I just researched the whole medical marijuana issue for WA state 2 days ago. Hubby told me that my disorders were included. UMM, sure, but you still have to buy from a dealer or you have to grow your own and then you have to worry that the court may not like your reason. It's not sold in a pharmeucy here so there is not "prescription" for it, it's a docs note.

I plan on talking to my two really good cop friends about it in the morning. One's a capt and the other has been in for 20 years, over 40years between them. So I'm interested in their take.

But my take is, if I have to sneak around to get it I just can't. I'd be here freaking out waiting to get caught and waiting for the cops. I couldn't chill. That's just my guilty conscience and that SUCKS! lol I don't take painkillers cause I'm afraid to be addicted with the huge family history, so some pot for the bad days sure would be awesome.

I'm not saying that my wine, martini's or beer are any better, not by any means. I'm just saying I don't have to worry about the cops coming to my door if I'm drinking alcohol. If you are not driving under the influence of any substance, I'm all for legalized drugs. Stupid, is stupid, doesn't matter what you are drinking or taking, you need to be responsible.

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Permalink Reply by Christy on July 25, 2009 at 5:11am

I work in the mental health field, and I also have a husband that has smoked pot since he was a teenager. I would argue the issue to the ground about pot being addictive. No, I do not think it is physically addictive, but mentally, it can be a crutch. I don't think this post was started about the issue of medical pot, so much.....I think a lot of people would probably not have an issue with that. Pain killer addiction is real bad, so medicinal use of marijuana would probably be better.

My husband is an entirely different human being when he has weed and when he does not. He had to quit this "habit" for job searching and my life turned into hell. He did not have the ability to cope with simple day to day noise, or day to day life with kids, etc.... We almost lost our marriage over this issue alone, and all it led to. If you have read any of my posts, you'll know that I do not judge....I wrote my own post about quitting "mama's little helper", which for me, was my nightly wine. I understand the need as a parent in this budy life to have a little mental relief....that said, weed can control your entire world if you let it, just like wine, pain killer drugs, etc.....it all depends on the person and situation.

Cindy Callinsky said:

I would love to hear from people who suffer from chronic pain or mental disorders such as Panic Attacks or General Anxiety Disorder. Is it better for physicians to prescribe something like Oxycodone, which is probably the most addictive legal drug known to the human race? Maybe some Valium or Xanax? The pharmaceutical companies are making massive amounts of money. My prescription for G.A.D. costs $110.00 a month. My sister spends about 2K a month on prescription medicine. She has had eight back operations and is in constant pain.

I’m not saying that Yoga might not possibly help, exercise and diet too. Until you or someone very close to you has suffered from somthing crippling, or felt like they were going to die from repeated panic attacks, I think it’s hard to really grasp the big picture. No one really knows the total benefits or side effects because no one has ever truly been able to do the research on it because they cannot get approval from the government. From the little research that has been done, it appears that the health benefits outweigh the side effects, especially when you consider the side effects of drugs such as Oxycodone. Not to mention the whole other side of it being a true renewable resource that grows pretty much everywhere and easily. It would be wonderful to save some of the trees, don’t you think?

No, I am not a pothead. I am a single mother that has struggled very hard for the majority of her life. If it was legal, I would absolutely use it in moderation if it were prescribed.

As for it being a gateway drug, I believe alcohol -which is legal- is the first gateway drug. Marijuana may be the next step in that progression, but those that fall into the “gateway” would have more than likely made it there with the use of alcohol alone if marijuana didn’t exist.

As with all drugs, it shouldn’t be prescribed to young people unless they have extenuating circumstances like a terminal illness.

I have seen many adults addicted to all kinds of prescription drugs, and marijuana is just not addictive. If you have Netflix, take some time and watch a couple of good documentaries on the issue.

Oh, yeah. What about all the money it would save the government in the war on drugs? It would almost remove the black market for it? It would make the government massive amounts of money if it were taxed.

If it were legalized, it would have to be used in an appropriate manor as with any other prescription drug. As with any other drug there will be people that do not use it properly, just as with alcohol and prescription drugs.


Val said:

Interesting topic as I just researched the whole medical marijuana issue for WA state 2 days ago. Hubby told me that my disorders were included. UMM, sure, but you still have to buy from a dealer or you have to grow your own and then you have to worry that the court may not like your reason. It's not sold in a pharmeucy here so there is not "prescription" for it, it's a docs note.

I plan on talking to my two really good cop friends about it in the morning. One's a capt and the other has been in for 20 years, over 40years between them. So I'm interested in their take.

But my take is, if I have to sneak around to get it I just can't. I'd be here freaking out waiting to get caught and waiting for the cops. I couldn't chill. That's just my guilty conscience and that SUCKS! lol I don't take painkillers cause I'm afraid to be addicted with the huge family history, so some pot for the bad days sure would be awesome.

I'm not saying that my wine, martini's or beer are any better, not by any means. I'm just saying I don't have to worry about the cops coming to my door if I'm drinking alcohol. If you are not driving under the influence of any substance, I'm all for legalized drugs. Stupid, is stupid, doesn't matter what you are drinking or taking, you need to be responsible.

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Permalink Reply by Cindy Callinsky on July 25, 2009 at 7:36am

Yes, I did go way off topic. I just don't think it's any worse than the legal things. I do see your point about the possible mental addiction. I'm sorry that it caused so many issues in your relationship. I would guess that it doesn't in all relationships. As you said, weed can control your entire world if you let it, just like wine, pain killer drugs, etc.....it all depends on the person and situation.

Christy said:

I work in the mental health field, and I also have a husband that has smoked pot since he was a teenager. I would argue the issue to the ground about pot being addictive. No, I do not think it is physically addictive, but mentally, it can be a crutch. I don't think this post was started about the issue of medical pot, so much.....I think a lot of people would probably not have an issue with that. Pain killer addiction is real bad, so medicinal use of marijuana would probably be better.

My husband is an entirely different human being when he has weed and when he does not. He had to quit this "habit" for job searching and my life turned into hell. He did not have the ability to cope with simple day to day noise, or day to day life with kids, etc.... We almost lost our marriage over this issue alone, and all it led to. If you have read any of my posts, you'll know that I do not judge....I wrote my own post about quitting "mama's little helper", which for me, was my nightly wine. I understand the need as a parent in this budy life to have a little mental relief....that said, weed can control your entire world if you let it, just like wine, pain killer drugs, etc.....it all depends on the person and situation.

Cindy Callinsky said:

I would love to hear from people who suffer from chronic pain or mental disorders such as Panic Attacks or General Anxiety Disorder. Is it better for physicians to prescribe something like Oxycodone, which is probably the most addictive legal drug known to the human race? Maybe some Valium or Xanax? The pharmaceutical companies are making massive amounts of money. My prescription for G.A.D. costs $110.00 a month. My sister spends about 2K a month on prescription medicine. She has had eight back operations and is in constant pain.

I’m not saying that Yoga might not possibly help, exercise and diet too. Until you or someone very close to you has suffered from somthing crippling, or felt like they were going to die from repeated panic attacks, I think it’s hard to really grasp the big picture. No one really knows the total benefits or side effects because no one has ever truly been able to do the research on it because they cannot get approval from the government. From the little research that has been done, it appears that the health benefits outweigh the side effects, especially when you consider the side effects of drugs such as Oxycodone. Not to mention the whole other side of it being a true renewable resource that grows pretty much everywhere and easily. It would be wonderful to save some of the trees, don’t you think?

No, I am not a pothead. I am a single mother that has struggled very hard for the majority of her life. If it was legal, I would absolutely use it in moderation if it were prescribed.

As for it being a gateway drug, I believe alcohol -which is legal- is the first gateway drug. Marijuana may be the next step in that progression, but those that fall into the “gateway” would have more than likely made it there with the use of alcohol alone if marijuana didn’t exist.

As with all drugs, it shouldn’t be prescribed to young people unless they have extenuating circumstances like a terminal illness.

I have seen many adults addicted to all kinds of prescription drugs, and marijuana is just not addictive. If you have Netflix, take some time and watch a couple of good documentaries on the issue.

Oh, yeah. What about all the money it would save the government in the war on drugs? It would almost remove the black market for it? It would make the government massive amounts of money if it were taxed.

If it were legalized, it would have to be used in an appropriate manor as with any other prescription drug. As with any other drug there will be people that do not use it properly, just as with alcohol and prescription drugs.


Val said:

Interesting topic as I just researched the whole medical marijuana issue for WA state 2 days ago. Hubby told me that my disorders were included. UMM, sure, but you still have to buy from a dealer or you have to grow your own and then you have to worry that the court may not like your reason. It's not sold in a pharmeucy here so there is not "prescription" for it, it's a docs note.

I plan on talking to my two really good cop friends about it in the morning. One's a capt and the other has been in for 20 years, over 40years between them. So I'm interested in their take.

But my take is, if I have to sneak around to get it I just can't. I'd be here freaking out waiting to get caught and waiting for the cops. I couldn't chill. That's just my guilty conscience and that SUCKS! lol I don't take painkillers cause I'm afraid to be addicted with the huge family history, so some pot for the bad days sure would be awesome.

I'm not saying that my wine, martini's or beer are any better, not by any means. I'm just saying I don't have to worry about the cops coming to my door if I'm drinking alcohol. If you are not driving under the influence of any substance, I'm all for legalized drugs. Stupid, is stupid, doesn't matter what you are drinking or taking, you need to be responsible.

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Permalink Reply by Jhanna Dawson on July 25, 2009 at 9:27pm

Well, who woulda thunk it? Funny thing is, I stopped smoking pot after I became pregnant with my first child. Not that I was a total pot head before, but I certainly had some good fun with it.

I did actually smoke once after I had my child, but I was way too paranoid about not being able to handle an emergency with a clear head and haven't smoked it since.

Do you think it's a tough subject because of the taboo behind it? If it were legalized say, 30 years ago, do you think the subject would even be around, or would it be just something of a every day occurrence?

Regardless, the bottom line is...it's illegal. Yes, there are instances where people are perscribed the drug. Absolutely. But for most of the population, it's still illegal.

Now, present this situation again when it's legal and commonplace. It would be interesting to see the answers. ;)

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