Thoughts on a Woman as President

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Permalink Reply by Sharon Dove Chocolatier on December 28, 2009 at 12:59pm

I think a woman can be a better President, # 1 she is better at Multi-tasking than a man, She knows how to handle a budget,(that is if she is a woman that has ran a house hold). She knows more about life and helping her community. And as you know most Presidents always got how to and what if's from there spouse.
I am speaking of a Woman President that has had no Nanny's, Took care of her on responsibility's ,So yes she Could.....

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Permalink Reply by Kassie on December 28, 2009 at 1:25pm

Thank you for the reply,Sharon.I couldn't agree more.

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Permalink Reply by Amanda Drover on December 31, 2009 at 6:36am

I agree women can multitask like no tomorrow, especially a mom. We are cook, maid, assistant, secretary, nurses, tech executives trying to figure out kid's games, referees for the fighting...the list goes on and on and on. And somehow we don't get paid? Not sure how that quite works out. LOL

Personally I don't think the question is can a woman do a better job - but can SOMEONE do a better job. YES. Have a look at the Presidents and for me Prime Ministers (I'm Canadian) who have done a good job...they were honest, they had integrity and had a real WANT to help the country. They didn't get paid NEARLY As much as they do now. So - in my opinion there should be a pay cut.

Presidents and Prime Ministers should get paid and pay the same taxes as the average citizen does. So if the average pay is $30,000 a year that's what he or she should make.

Anyhow - I think having a female President or Prime Minister would shake things up and there's nothing wrong with change :)

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Permalink Reply by griffmama on January 2, 2010 at 4:28am

I think a woman as President would bring a fresh perspective to the White House and would have the potential to be highly effective in that position. Women are strong and multi-tasking and generally excellent communicators ~ all of which are great assets to the Presidency.

She would; however, need to stay true to her womanhood and not 'man' herself up for the position ~ then she would bring no difference in approach or perspective.

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Permalink Reply by Vanessa on January 3, 2010 at 7:35pm

I think it would be an amazing thing to see a female president. The only thing I'm concerned with is how a woman would really handle all the stress. The job "ages" people so much because of the stress and men don't get half as stressed about things as women do.
I'm definitely not saying it's impossible, just that it might be harder on a woman.

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Permalink Reply by Jerri Ann on January 4, 2010 at 6:25am

Probably the dissenting voice here through the entire conversation but............I haven't seen a woman yet that I think would do a superior job to any of the men we have had. That doesn't mean that I think there will never be one but I am skeptical. I've written about this many times in various places (and too bad I can't find them now but I will look).

Yes women make better multi-taskers I think. And, in some ways, I think women may make better negotiators. However, women tend to fall apart as a group in the face adversity. Men, will bond together and fight. Many times in issues that they disagree on, they will find common ground and bond together and go into war and fight as one. Women for some reason tend to want to argue amongst themselves. If you don't believe this to be true, I can find at least one female blogging fight a day online. But find men bloggers who are stabbing one another in the back, who are arguing on the "best" way to do something...rarely. As a matter of fact, with all the online cat fights (women), I've never seen one dog fight (men) at all.

One of my good friends is a male stripper. He and I discussed this one and he was amazed at my point of view. But then, he added that when he worked in clubs with other men, they would all get together and have the attitude of "go out there and make as much money as you can tonight" and when he worked with women, "they would argue amongst themselves about who had what customer and who received a better tip and why". Sad analogy I know but it is the truth.

I am terribly afraid that even the most educated woman would be unable to think clearly and precisely leaving all the extra elements out of the picture (she has those shoes from store X I wanted or she lied to get where she is, she mistreats her kids or she wouldn't be in this position in the first place ---- and for those of you shacing your head in disgust at what I said, look at the people who attacked Palin for running for VP when she had small children at home? What did that have to do with anything? Nothing except other women coming to the conclusion that she couldn't raise kids "properly" and do the job of VP---- it is a reality whether we as women want to admit it or not).

With that said, I have no qualms about naming names of the few women that have been in the limelight over the years and telling you how they fit right into the mold of female cat fighter and thus rendering them not a good candidate for President in my opinion. I am not a believer that a person having problems being the authority figure in their home makes them unable to be an authority figure in the nation. We can't control what our children do in most cases, especially as they get older. And no one ever commented on President Bush's abilities even when his daughters were getting in trouble but Palin's children's shortcomings were all over the news. Neither of those can be a direct reflection of the adult in my opinion. However, the manner in which the adult deals with those issues is definitely a reflection of how he or she might deal with issues that involve our nation. And, in my opinion, Palin's children were made a spectacle of during her run for VP. Was it right for that to happen? I don't really think so but in many ways, she allowed that to happen. She made decisions and aired her decisions publicly. and in all honesty, does the President of the United States need to be airing his/her dirty laundry in the news and to be perfectly clear, I think there is much that goes on behind the scenes as a President that the general public just doesn't need to have their grubby hands on, ripping people to shreds and analyzing the heck out of ongoings.

Let me clarify, I do not support one party over the other. I support people. And, although I believe that Pres. Bush made plenty of mistakes, he did an excellent job of letting his children lead their lives without it being broadcast all over the nation, leaving everyone to question his decisions regarding how he dealt with the girls. We have very rarely heard that he even spoke to them and attempted to be a father to them in their times of need, although I fully believe that he as there for them and did handle his role as a father well. It simply wasn't any of our business how he handled that. But, with Palin, she was constantly blowing her decisions out all over the media. Yes I know the media jumps in when they shouldn't sometimes but she had the option of saying "this is a family matter, no further comment", yet she didn't, she continued to try to justify her decisions.

And if there is one thing we don't need is someone who feels they have to justify their decisions. We need someone who can act, be confident in his/her actions and then move forward without feeling the need to get in a verbal war over whether his/her decisions are "right". Right for one family is not right for another.

With that, let me tell you a few others and why I think I've yet to see a female that I believed would do a good job. (That doesn't mean there isn't one out there, just not one in the political limelight right now that I believe in).

Hillary Clinton - If there is one that comes close, I believe this is the one. She has proven that she isn't quite as catty as others, she handled the issues in her personal life with her husband in the manner she wanted to, she dealt with the consequences and she didn't spend endless hours in the media justifying why she stuck with her husband after his transgressions. She made the decision and she let her political life move on while her personal life did whatever it was it did but did so behind the scenes.

Condoleeza Rice - Another one that I think has handled her personal life behind the wall and kept the media at bay really well. And, her experience politically over the years is probably good enough to render her capable of making good decisions, however, when faced with personal adversity, we haven't seen just how she will react. And, in my opinion that leaves room for her to find her inner cattiness.

I don't mean to just sound like I am blasting women. But the fact is, men will join arms and go to war and fight. Women will join arms until one of them realizes that one of the others hasn't pulled her hair back properly, or hasn't shined her shoes well enough, and will generally spend time looking for the transgressions of the other women...and then instead of a line of women fighting, we have a lot of broken spots and in turn we leave ourselves vulnerable.

I could write on this forever and use more analogies than I have breathe for, but this is just my opinion and well...you asked.

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Permalink Reply by Kassie on January 4, 2010 at 7:31am

I agree here.I would love tos ee a woman as president.As fors tress,I think it is something a woman could handle.Look at our daily life now...we maintain the house,pay bills,take care of our kids,most work outside the home,etc.So,I think it is very possible.All we need is a very strong woman to run!

Vanessa said:

I think it would be an amazing thing to see a female president. The only thing I'm concerned with is how a woman would really handle all the stress. The job "ages" people so much because of the stress and men don't get half as stressed about things as women do.
I'm definitely not saying it's impossible, just that it might be harder on a woman.

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Permalink Reply by Kassie on January 4, 2010 at 7:33am

Jerri: You make great points.Thanks for replying!

Jerri Ann said:

Probably the dissenting voice here through the entire conversation but............I haven't seen a woman yet that I think would do a superior job to any of the men we have had. That doesn't mean that I think there will never be one but I am skeptical. I've written about this many times in various places (and too bad I can't find them now but I will look).

Yes women make better multi-taskers I think. And, in some ways, I think women may make better negotiators. However, women tend to fall apart as a group in the face adversity. Men, will bond together and fight. Many times in issues that they disagree on, they will find common ground and bond together and go into war and fight as one. Women for some reason tend to want to argue amongst themselves. If you don't believe this to be true, I can find at least one female blogging fight a day online. But find men bloggers who are stabbing one another in the back, who are arguing on the "best" way to do something...rarely. As a matter of fact, with all the online cat fights (women), I've never seen one dog fight (men) at all.

One of my good friends is a male stripper. He and I discussed this one and he was amazed at my point of view. But then, he added that when he worked in clubs with other men, they would all get together and have the attitude of "go out there and make as much money as you can tonight" and when he worked with women, "they would argue amongst themselves about who had what customer and who received a better tip and why". Sad analogy I know but it is the truth.

I am terribly afraid that even the most educated woman would be unable to think clearly and precisely leaving all the extra elements out of the picture (she has those shoes from store X I wanted or she lied to get where she is, she mistreats her kids or she wouldn't be in this position in the first place ---- and for those of you shacing your head in disgust at what I said, look at the people who attacked Palin for running for VP when she had small children at home? What did that have to do with anything? Nothing except other women coming to the conclusion that she couldn't raise kids "properly" and do the job of VP---- it is a reality whether we as women want to admit it or not).

With that said, I have no qualms about naming names of the few women that have been in the limelight over the years and telling you how they fit right into the mold of female cat fighter and thus rendering them not a good candidate for President in my opinion. I am not a believer that a person having problems being the authority figure in their home makes them unable to be an authority figure in the nation. We can't control what our children do in most cases, especially as they get older. And no one ever commented on President Bush's abilities even when his daughters were getting in trouble but Palin's children's shortcomings were all over the news. Neither of those can be a direct reflection of the adult in my opinion. However, the manner in which the adult deals with those issues is definitely a reflection of how he or she might deal with issues that involve our nation. And, in my opinion, Palin's children were made a spectacle of during her run for VP. Was it right for that to happen? I don't really think so but in many ways, she allowed that to happen. She made decisions and aired her decisions publicly. and in all honesty, does the President of the United States need to be airing his/her dirty laundry in the news and to be perfectly clear, I think there is much that goes on behind the scenes as a President that the general public just doesn't need to have their grubby hands on, ripping people to shreds and analyzing the heck out of ongoings.

Let me clarify, I do not support one party over the other. I support people. And, although I believe that Pres. Bush made plenty of mistakes, he did an excellent job of letting his children lead their lives without it being broadcast all over the nation, leaving everyone to question his decisions regarding how he dealt with the girls. We have very rarely heard that he even spoke to them and attempted to be a father to them in their times of need, although I fully believe that he as there for them and did handle his role as a father well. It simply wasn't any of our business how he handled that. But, with Palin, she was constantly blowing her decisions out all over the media. Yes I know the media jumps in when they shouldn't sometimes but she had the option of saying "this is a family matter, no further comment", yet she didn't, she continued to try to justify her decisions.

And if there is one thing we don't need is someone who feels they have to justify their decisions. We need someone who can act, be confident in his/her actions and then move forward without feeling the need to get in a verbal war over whether his/her decisions are "right". Right for one family is not right for another.

With that, let me tell you a few others and why I think I've yet to see a female that I believed would do a good job. (That doesn't mean there isn't one out there, just not one in the political limelight right now that I believe in).

Hillary Clinton - If there is one that comes close, I believe this is the one. She has proven that she isn't quite as catty as others, she handled the issues in her personal life with her husband in the manner she wanted to, she dealt with the consequences and she didn't spend endless hours in the media justifying why she stuck with her husband after his transgressions. She made the decision and she let her political life move on while her personal life did whatever it was it did but did so behind the scenes.

Condoleeza Rice - Another one that I think has handled her personal life behind the wall and kept the media at bay really well. And, her experience politically over the years is probably good enough to render her capable of making good decisions, however, when faced with personal adversity, we haven't seen just how she will react. And, in my opinion that leaves room for her to find her inner cattiness.

I don't mean to just sound like I am blasting women. But the fact is, men will join arms and go to war and fight. Women will join arms until one of them realizes that one of the others hasn't pulled her hair back properly, or hasn't shined her shoes well enough, and will generally spend time looking for the transgressions of the other women...and then instead of a line of women fighting, we have a lot of broken spots and in turn we leave ourselves vulnerable.

I could write on this forever and use more analogies than I have breathe for, but this is just my opinion and well...you asked.

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Permalink Reply by Homemom3 on January 5, 2010 at 10:18am

While I'd love to see a woman in office just to prove it can happen. Like Jerri Ann I fear what might happen. Truth is I'm not sure a woman could handle the war situation, would she be okay sending hundreds off? What if we were attacked? What if we werent' but needed to go somewhere. I guess too me, when I see a woman as president I don't just see a woman but a mother. While a mom could raise these children to be great men or women, I can't picture her as president, course it would be the ultimate thing for a woman.

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Permalink Reply by Jerri Ann on January 5, 2010 at 10:30am

I think it is paramount that women come to the forefront of our society. It is absolutely imperative that as women we take our roles as mothers seriously (as most of us do) but that we help one another prove that as a gender, we are strong, we are organized (even the most ill-organized women still get their kids to school or social events for many years) and we are capable of functioning as the CEO of our family, a small business, a big business or our country.

That said, through blogging, women have made a massive statement in the retail world as companies have realized that 99% of consumer products (and especially perishables) are purchased by women and the decision to purchase a particular brand is made by women. This is huge for us. This gives us power and for once, men are a bit afraid of us because of this power.

That's the first step in gaining some sense of stability for our gender in general. One step at a time, we prove ourselves (as if we should have to prove ourselves...but so is life) to be the strong, efficient, negotiators that we are. And with that time comes respect. And with that respect comes more responsibility and eventually, the responsibility will equate to running our country. For now, as women, we have to keep our guard up and sometimes in defense of other women.

And that brings me full circle to my original statement; men can put differences aside and go hand in hand into combat without wavering for friendship or a cute pair of shoes and women still have the natural tendency to pick sides amongst themselves. And that would, in the end, leave us vulnerable on our borders. Even if we aren't in a time of war, we have to keep our guard up and since as women we have that skilled narrowed down to a fine art usually, this could be to our advantage. However, we need to learn that skill of objectivity that I think many of us (and notice I included myself) still don't have and many men are just instinctively born with.

Notice these are generalization and I know there are exceptions to every rule. But, again, looking across the political world right now, I simply don't see a woman that I could believe in. Actually.....................do you really want me to go there?

I do have one person that I thought about last night when talking to my husband about this post but.......let me think it over some more first...

Homemom3 said:

While I'd love to see a woman in office just to prove it can happen. Like Jerri Ann I fear what might happen. Truth is I'm not sure a woman could handle the war situation, would she be okay sending hundreds off? What if we were attacked? What if we werent' but needed to go somewhere. I guess too me, when I see a woman as president I don't just see a woman but a mother. While a mom could raise these children to be great men or women, I can't picture her as president, course it would be the ultimate thing for a woman.

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Permalink Reply by Kassie on January 5, 2010 at 10:43am

Jerri: I woudl be ecstatic if a woman became President.I think it is time that we women start getting out in the public eye,and show that we have ideas to,and that they could really help this country.There are so many issues out there,that we women handle domestically (I mean on the homefront),that we could apply to this country.We are better at everything,IMO.I think it is time we get the chance to show how good we are.Maybe,if a woman gets elected,we can finally get things done.

So,I completely agree with your post...100%.Now,the question is..who do we think will be the first woman?I look forward to your suggestion!


Jerri Ann said:

I think it is paramount that women come to the forefront of our society. It is absolutely imperative that as women we take our roles as mothers seriously (as most of us do) but that we help one another prove that as a gender, we are strong, we are organized (even the most ill-organized women still get their kids to school or social events for many years) and we are capable of functioning as the CEO of our family, a small business, a big business or our country.

That said, through blogging, women have made a massive statement in the retail world as companies have realized that 99% of consumer products (and especially perishables) are purchased by women and the decision to purchase a particular brand is made by women. This is huge for us. This gives us power and for once, men are a bit afraid of us because of this power.

That's the first step in gaining some sense of stability for our gender in general. One step at a time, we prove ourselves (as if we should have to prove ourselves...but so is life) to be the strong, efficient, negotiators that we are. And with that time comes respect. And with that respect comes more responsibility and eventually, the responsibility will equate to running our country. For now, as women, we have to keep our guard up and sometimes in defense of other women.

And that brings me full circle to my original statement; men can put differences aside and go hand in hand into combat without wavering for friendship or a cute pair of shoes and women still have the natural tendency to pick sides amongst themselves. And that would, in the end, leave us vulnerable on our borders. Even if we aren't in a time of war, we have to keep our guard up and since as women we have that skilled narrowed down to a fine art usually, this could be to our advantage. However, we need to learn that skill of objectivity that I think many of us (and notice I included myself) still don't have and many men are just instinctively born with.

Notice these are generalization and I know there are exceptions to every rule. But, again, looking across the political world right now, I simply don't see a woman that I could believe in. Actually.....................do you really want me to go there?

I do have one person that I thought about last night when talking to my husband about this post but.......let me think it over some more first...

Homemom3 said:

While I'd love to see a woman in office just to prove it can happen. Like Jerri Ann I fear what might happen. Truth is I'm not sure a woman could handle the war situation, would she be okay sending hundreds off? What if we were attacked? What if we werent' but needed to go somewhere. I guess too me, when I see a woman as president I don't just see a woman but a mother. While a mom could raise these children to be great men or women, I can't picture her as president, course it would be the ultimate thing for a woman.

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Permalink Reply by Jerri Ann on January 5, 2010 at 10:55am

Kassie
You squeezed it out of me. HaHa! Actually I expect this to get more venom than my actual thought that maybe there is not a woman out there that should be president. Right now, in today's society. I would take Michelle Obama and to be honest, I would have taken her over her husband a year ago.

Why?
In no particular order after the first 2.
1. She has proven that her family comes first.
2. She has proven that her family comes first and she can be equally talented in many other efforts (multi-tasker).
3. She has proven that family is important and the sense of togetherness is important.
4. She is educated with books, she is educated in working in the economic class and she is educated in the world of experience.
5. She has proven herself to be a trendsetter regardless of the naysayers (take her attire for instance, she is smart enough to know that it doesn't matter if she goes sleeveless in January or wears a turtleneck in July, someone is not going to like it, so she does what she does with modesty and excels with it). (This is big in the line of my argument against a woman and their ability to get bent out of shape over what another woman possess that they don't).
6. She has proven that she can handle her family in her husband's absence. While he was a Senator she was a single parent often.
7. She has lived in the political world for many years (and this could be a pitfall as she hasn't lived in it as long as say Hillary) and she because of her experience in and out of the political limelight, she has had many opportunities to gather information and make sound decisions based on that information.
8. She shows interest, even over-indulgence in her children, but with great restraint and respect.

Downfalls?
1. She is young, she does have young children, she does need more time to be a mother as a single job and not have to comprise any of her time away from her kids with firecracker airplane double agent idiots.
2. She hasn't held a political office before. (Yea well, neither had Hillary til after Bill left office).
3. She may have lived a bit of an upperclass lifestyle and been brought up that way as well (but then again, aren't most of our political leaders?)

Ok, I tried to look back over some of the points I made and answer them based on my suggestion of Michelle Obama....if you don't think I am a bit on a Michelle Obama roll, you can see Michelle Obama Watch

I haven't written anything but paid posts on that site in months but if you dig back, I have a few...

Kassie said:

Jerri: I woudl be ecstatic if a woman became President.I think it is time that we women start getting out in the public eye,and show that we have ideas to,and that they could really help this country.There are so many issues out there,that we women handle domestically (I mean on the homefront),that we could apply to this country.We are better at everything,IMO.I think it is time we get the chance to show how good we are.Maybe,if a woman gets elected,we can finally get things done.

So,I completely agree with your post...100%.Now,the question is..who do we think will be the first woman?I look forward to your suggestion!


Jerri Ann said:

I think it is paramount that women come to the forefront of our society. It is absolutely imperative that as women we take our roles as mothers seriously (as most of us do) but that we help one another prove that as a gender, we are strong, we are organized (even the most ill-organized women still get their kids to school or social events for many years) and we are capable of functioning as the CEO of our family, a small business, a big business or our country.

That said, through blogging, women have made a massive statement in the retail world as companies have realized that 99% of consumer products (and especially perishables) are purchased by women and the decision to purchase a particular brand is made by women. This is huge for us. This gives us power and for once, men are a bit afraid of us because of this power.

That's the first step in gaining some sense of stability for our gender in general. One step at a time, we prove ourselves (as if we should have to prove ourselves...but so is life) to be the strong, efficient, negotiators that we are. And with that time comes respect. And with that respect comes more responsibility and eventually, the responsibility will equate to running our country. For now, as women, we have to keep our guard up and sometimes in defense of other women.

And that brings me full circle to my original statement; men can put differences aside and go hand in hand into combat without wavering for friendship or a cute pair of shoes and women still have the natural tendency to pick sides amongst themselves. And that would, in the end, leave us vulnerable on our borders. Even if we aren't in a time of war, we have to keep our guard up and since as women we have that skilled narrowed down to a fine art usually, this could be to our advantage. However, we need to learn that skill of objectivity that I think many of us (and notice I included myself) still don't have and many men are just instinctively born with.

Notice these are generalization and I know there are exceptions to every rule. But, again, looking across the political world right now, I simply don't see a woman that I could believe in. Actually.....................do you really want me to go there?

I do have one person that I thought about last night when talking to my husband about this post but.......let me think it over some more first...

Homemom3 said:

While I'd love to see a woman in office just to prove it can happen. Like Jerri Ann I fear what might happen. Truth is I'm not sure a woman could handle the war situation, would she be okay sending hundreds off? What if we were attacked? What if we werent' but needed to go somewhere. I guess too me, when I see a woman as president I don't just see a woman but a mother. While a mom could raise these children to be great men or women, I can't picture her as president, course it would be the ultimate thing for a woman.

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